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UTAU tutorial - CV Oto's by Ataela UTAU tutorial - CV Oto's by Ataela
Sorry this is coming in a day late, I argued with Hypercam for about two hours after my recording kept getting off time, and that turned me off making the tutorial yesterday. I'm going to make them picture tutorials instead since hypercam hates me ;-;

Anyway, here is my CV oto tutorial, I hope you find it useful! If you have any questions, let me know. My next tutorial will be about pitchbends!
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L9-ROY Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
omg you are like an angel thanks so much hahaha
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Ataela Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2015  Student Digital Artist
no problem, glad you found it useful!
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L9-ROY Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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chexmemint Featured By Owner May 31, 2015
My "ke" is kinda choppy, but it improved alot, thank you ^^
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Ataela Featured By Owner May 31, 2015  Student Digital Artist
No problem! I'm glad you found it useful!
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javaFrappuccino Featured By Owner May 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Ohmygodthankyousomuchforthis

I was trying to figure out why my UTAU was having trouble with her consonants, and I guess this is why... ; w;
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Ataela Featured By Owner May 2, 2015  Student Digital Artist
well, I'm glad you find it useful!
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GJYYNGII Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015   Digital Artist
For the hard consonants, does the "ch" and "ts" sounds count as well?
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Ataela Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I personally consider them soft in my recordings, but honestly it can depend on the person. Some people are VERY good at recording those sounds in short bursts, but if it's around the length of a sound like your 's' sounds or 'sh' sounds, i'd consider it a soft one.
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MsMercuryLamp Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel like this is a really dumb question but I'm going to ask anyways since I'm stupid ;A;
So um, when I oto my voicebank, do these changes stay with the voicebank? Like if I were to oto it, then share my VB for others to download, would they have to oto it manually themselves?
I have a similar question about the alias. If I had the files as romaji and put hiragana as the alias, would other users who download my VB have to add the alias themselves again?
Sorry if my questions don't make sense, I want to learn how to use UTAU and create a voicebank as well but I don't really know these things D: I've watched tutorials but these questions were still in mind.
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Ataela Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2015  Student Digital Artist
As long as you do not click the 'x' button, but close out of the oto programmer with the 'okay' button, it should save both the oto and the alias :) other people will not have to oto it over again, that would be so much work! But it's not a dumb question, not at all. I hope I helped!
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MsMercuryLamp Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks so much! I was wondering that for the longest time but never got a direct answer XD
Also, I have another question if I may. ^^; I noticed in recording tutorials that each phoneme/sound should be saved as it's own separate .wav file like, "cha.wav", "che.wav", "chi.wav" but when looking at some voicebanks, these multiple sounds are saved in just one .wav like, "cha_che_chi.wav" How exactly does that work? I noticed that these voicebanks have less files in a sense because of that. I haven't seen any explanations for this so maybe you can explain this to me? ;A; Sorry for asking so many questions //hides
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Ataela Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Oh, that's a good question! There are two answers, really:
1) That bank could possibly be VCV, CVVC etc. meaning it uses a different recording style than standard CV voicebanks, so there might be a different string of sounds recorded. (EX: a common vcv sample looks like this 'chachachichachuchecha.wav')
2) They are using aliases to separate the sounds. There is a way in UTAU to oto the same sound multiple times, but with different aliases for each way you oto it. So, a person could theoretically have the sounds cha, che, chi, cho, and chu all on the same file, but create separate aliases and otos for them. This can be done by opening the voicebank settings (where you oto your files) right clicking on any file, and clicking the 'duplicate' option. Then your sample will have 2 oto files for one sample, that can be oto'd and aliase'd separately from each other, while still using the same wavefile as the base.

I hope that helps!! If you have any other questions to ask, feel free! It's no bother at all :)
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MsMercuryLamp Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have only seen tutorials for CV, so I guess that explains why I wasn't familiar with that file format ^^;
Aaah, okay thanks so much for the detailed answers. :D I've been looking for explanations everywhere but I'm assuming this is just "common sense" by Utau users. Speaking of which, I want to become a better user myself but I've noticed that almost every one I've seen makes their own USTs. Should I learn to make my own as well? I feel rude just using other people's but I don't have too much background knowledge in the skills needed for that.

I appreciate you being so nice about all of my questions!~ Tuzki Emoticon 3 
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Ataela Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  Student Digital Artist
It's no problem! I'm happy to help! I actually haven't been able to make videos much lately, so answering questions feels pretty good, it gives me a way to still be involved in the community :D

You'll learn as you go, don't worry. What seems really new to you now will be second nature in a few months, and I say that from personal experience. As for making UST's, you shouldn't feel rude! People who release UST's do it so they can be used. If you want to do more than just plug-and-play a UST, you might want to consider tuning UST's other people make as a start. It's a great way to spice up a cover if you do your own pitchbends, and there are plenty of tutorials for that on Youtube. I'll link you some good ones here:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIx1LK…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxRmDV…

If you actually want to make your own UST's, there are a lot of ways!! If you want me to find some tutorials on it for you, I'll see what I can find :)
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MsMercuryLamp Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks super nice of you :D

That's quite a relief to me, whew haha. I know but it just makes me feel like I should put more effort I guess? I can't really explain but I'll try tuning like you suggested! :) Thanks for sending me those links, I'll check them out :meow:

Are there really? I would really appreciate that if it's okay with you c:
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Ataela Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I am sooo sorry i haven't replied to this yet, I've been very busy with school!

It's not a problem, they're kind of long, but here is a series of tutorials that teaches you a very nice way of making ust's!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhPRZz…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw8IRr…
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KuraiLilia1998 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the lovely tutorial!

Though one question, I don't know whether I didn't notice or not but, does the pink bar has no function in a way?
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Ataela Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2014  Student Digital Artist
The pink bar does have a function actually, but you'll only notice it on long notes. the area covered by the pink bar will not be 'stretched' on long notes. It's a way to keep your consonants from sound like a 'b' sound to a 'bbbbbb' sound when a long note is played. :)
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KuraiLilia1998 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, so I should just keep them in the range of the consonants?
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Ataela Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
yes, usually just put it past the consonant, sliiiightly into the vowel. no more than 10% into the vowel, i'd say.
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KuraiLilia1998 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Alright. Thx u7u
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HK-0391 Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014   Digital Artist
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
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ElfLordofTime Featured By Owner May 30, 2014  Student General Artist
I just wanted to say Thanks for making this, it's been incredibly helpful! ^^
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Ataela Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Student Digital Artist
No problem!
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IbAllAlone Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I have encountered another problem: whenever I copy'n'paste the hiragana symbol into the 'alias' box, it becomes a question mark. Why is it doing that?
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Ataela Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014  Student Digital Artist
That's because your computer isn't in JP locale (where hiragana is actually typable). It's a computer setting, and I'm not sure if all computers have it?? But there are some tutorials for UTAU/Vocaloid users on youtube for people who need to learn how to activate it.
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IbAllAlone Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I am set in the Japanese locale. I'm sidestepping the issue for now by using the Essential Utau Toolkit which lets me convert any hiragana usts into romajji. 
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Ataela Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Is the problem just with you pasting characters into the program, or any ust already in hiragana?
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IbAllAlone Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
The problem is me pasting characters into the program. The hiragana for any ust shows up as hiragana. I just can't paste any hiragana aliases into my voicebank. BTW, thank you for your time.
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Ataela Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Not a problem, i think i know what it is!! Sometimes the fonts on certain websites etc doesnt transfer properly when pasting into a program like UTAU. you should try finding a different website to get the characters from, it actually used to happen to me quite a bit, haha!
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IbAllAlone Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you so much! I'll try that.
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Ataela Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Student Digital Artist
No problem! I hope it works ;A;
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IbAllAlone Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
This is incredibly helpful, I didn't understand oto'ing at all before this. But, I have a problem that I need help with. My frq files won't generate. I get a  'regenarte __.wav frq file' messafe and a question mark where the circle should be every time I try. I've moved Utau out of the Program Files, I've run it as an administrator: nothing. Help me please?
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Ataela Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Hmmm, this is something I'm not entirely sure of. Did you move your UTAU out of program files BEFORE you started having this problem, or after?
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IbAllAlone Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
*message
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IbAllAlone Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
OK, I changed my system locale to Japanese, and that fixed it. Sorry for putting you through that. Now I can oto! XD 
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xXAngel-Wolf-Princes Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Student Interface Designer
Thank you, thank you so much! 
I use this every time I need to work on my Utau
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Ataela Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Student Digital Artist
No problem! I'm glad you find it useful!
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TakumiNoobKiller Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2014
Some of my syllables are off-sync like the S-based, W-Based, and Y-based. all the others are fine, though. How can I fix this?

Btw I am a male but my voice sounds nasal when rendered on UTAU, so I genderbent it to be female...
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Ataela Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Off Sync? I'm not sure what you mean.
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TakumiNoobKiller Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2014
Never mind, and sorry about the late reply. It turns out that part of the consonant went over the vowel, causing the consonant to be so short that the vowel plays too soon, causing it to sound off-sync. Soon I'll record a VCV. I've made a song (wip only, not quite a demo) with my voicebank, and despite being at least (at least SOMEWHAT) Realistic, I'm not satisfied. I know how to oto a VCV, it's like a CV, but the overlap is extended over the previous vowel.
Your tutorial really helped, though! thanks!
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Ataela Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Ah, thats fine! You're welcome, and let me know if you need anything. ^w^
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xNyanNyanNeko Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014
my 'ru' creates a high pitched screeching sound, and i don't know why. Do you have an idea?
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Ataela Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014  Student Digital Artist
That sounds like an old FRQ/PMK file! To fix it, you have 2 things you can do:

1)This is the easier method xD Go into UTAU, and open up the menu where you edit your oto. find the 'ru' sound, and click it so it's highlighted. Then you're going to hit the "initialize freq. map" button (if you're still in the JP ver of UTAU, the button might be in japanese, but it's on the bottom of the menu, second one from the left) and then click ok when a little screen comes up to remake the FRQ!
*note that method 2 won't work if you're using tips.exe because that resampler uses pmk files and not frq files, so if this doesnt work try method one.

2) go into your voicebank folder where all your wavfiles are saved, find the 'ru.wav" and somewhere near it there should be a "ru_wav.frq" or if you've been using the tips.exe resampler a "ru.wav.pmk" file. Delete them (but not the actual .wav file) and then rerender the sample in UTAU! It should fix the screeching sound.



What usually causes screeching sounds like that is that you might have re-recorded a sound, like 'ru.wav' after already playing it in UTAU and thus creating an FRQ for the sound. The frq goes along with the wavfile, but since the two sounds are different now, they 'clash' and make that highpitch screeching sound, from what I've come to understand. If that doesn't fix your problem, let me know and I'll try taking a look at the voicebank?
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NezNezz Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2013  Student General Artist
Very helpful tutorial for redoing the sad oto's of my early UTAUs~ XD

I do have one question though-- Where should the overlap be put for ch sounds? Like "chi" and "chu"
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Ataela Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I usually use the 'soft consonant' method like with s sounds for ch sounds. I'm glad you find it useful!
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PolkaMocha Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
do i do this for every single sample? ; - ;
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Ataela Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yes, you do!
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PolkaMocha Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
;A;
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